So what's with the sign?
"There are so many more legitimate targets to be choosing [than BART], and really they're embarrassing themselves without realizing it. The people falling for this sort of action [hacking into BART's website and exposing people's information] are doing themselves more harm than good."
Why more harm than good?
"On the level of public relations it's a nightmare. They're making themselves look foolish and impotent, and that's not something anyone should be involved with. I think they're probably driving more people away. It's a bit of smokescreen from addressing the legitimate targets they should be addressing."
Do you think BART should be able to turn off cell-phone service?
"I have no problem with that. It's a recent development that people have the notion that people feel they have a right to cell-phone reception on private property. They should have been protesting the Muni chief getting a golden parachute of $350,000 dollars, they should have been protesting things like that. But this just makes them look silly."
Are you still involved in other Anonymous projects?
"I am, but I'm not going to get into that. I was a hardcore punk in the early '80s then got into animal rights, and I've been doing direct action for about 30 years. For the sake of sounding and feeling old, this is really kind of pathetic. This is not what I was fighting for in those years. We were fighting things like Reagan and Iran Contra and legitimate targets. It's a travesty. It plays into people's stereotypes, too, of spoiled hipsters that have more time and money on their hands than they know what to do with."
So Anonymous aren't spoiled hipsters?
"There is that element. They're more visible than is wise. If they are trying to remain Anonymous, they're not doing a great job of it."