By SONNY SMITH
[Editor's note: Perhaps you noticed that the new album from Sonny and the Sunsets, which we wrote about in print last week and comes out today, is called Antenna to the Afterworld. Given that the afterlife, aliens, and other paranormal subjects figure heavily into the music, it's not surprising that bandleader Sonny Smith recently interviewed local psychic medium Jessica Lanyadoo. We thought their conversation about the afterworld, where we go when we die, and the possibility of reincarnation was interesting, and so are publishing it here for your perusal. Sonny and the Sunsets perform tonight, June 11, at SF Eagle (formerly Eagle Tavern).]
What happens when we die?
It's different for
For each person?
Yes, in a way. I have never died, so I don't know what happens, right? But from my experience of connecting with dead people and animals over the years, I've seen that it varies pretty widely for people. If you are ready to go, the transition can be easier, as with any big change. We don't exactly die as much as our bodies die. Our spirit lives on.
I've seen it a bunch that when people are on morphine when they die that it takes them longer to fully realize that they are out of their body. So it's a subtle line being crossed. Some people stay in a cocoon phase.
That could last centuries?
I don't know about centuries, but here's the thing, time is a body thing.
Our experience of time is only because we're physically alive. So when I've communicated with people who have crossed over sometimes, they are in turmoil for a long "time." And an embodied, or alive person can be devastated to learn this, but for those in spirit it's not time. It's not "10 human years" that they've been lingering in. We take as long as we take to do our thing in this world and in the next. The easiest way to understand this is to think of how sometimes you can sleep for five minutes and it feels like hours, or you can sleep for hours and it feels like minutes. When we are not conciously in our bodies time is not the same.
Maybe they're going to another dimension?
Which is not separate from this dimension for them.
Are you saying that different people may go to different dimensions?
Yes and no. You and I have a different experience of reality right now. We're about the same age and it's 9 a.m. for both of us, and we're in the same room, but we're having a different experience. So the experiences we have, whether we're alive or dead, can be totally different.
The concept of dimension is again another physical thing, a temporal thing; it's a problem of the human condition to perceive separation. So when I communicate with someone who's crossed over, they can be talking to me, they can also be sitting next to the bedside of someone in another country; they can be doing different things in different locations. Without a body, the possibility of being many places at once is present.
In terms of reincarnation, someone dies and then it's possible the consciousness evaporates into this unknown or unknowable place, but then somehow re-gathers and zaps into a little baby or a rock or whatever.
I believe in reincarnation, and I believe your soul and my soul have been embodied countless different times. People often say, "Oh, I feel like I've met this person before" I believe that just about everyone we meet now we've had contact with before.
I do believe in reincarnation, but the part that's hard for me to wrap my head around is this: the soul is whole, but it's wholeness doesn't mean that now that I'm in a body, that I'm not also in a more expansive place. Meaning, my soul can be busy doing other things elsewhere.
Really? And this amount of other things could be infinite?
Absolutely I think yes. This is my perspective.
Okay, are many dead people sort of lingering after life?
Yes, there are dead people, spirits, energy forms, and entities everywhere, but I cannot see or hear them all the time. Thank God for that!
Think of it this way: you're walking down the street, and there's music coming from a passing car, or music coming out of a coffee shop, or out of a store, and you know there is music, but you are not really paying attention to it. You are blocking it out, or not focused on it, so you don't really hear it, though you know it's there. If you took in all that you hear all the time you'd be overwhelmed and unable to get things done and live your life effectively.
There are millions of microbes and germs everywhere, all the time. So many miniscule organisms crawling on our skin, living on every surface. If you think about it too much it can drive you cray-cray. If you are vulnerable to them for any reason you can get sick, but for the most part we co-exist with them quite safely. Spirits and ghosts are much the same. They're kind of everywhere, but if you're not especially vulnerable to them and you don't over think it, it's no big deal.
Ghosts typically are thought of as bad, as beings that have not let go of the mortal plain, but there must be ghosts who linger for positive reasons.
There are. Some people choose to stay with loved ones or even places that they loved. I don't know that these are exactly ghosts, [but] they can be. In general, there is a sadness, pain, or stagnation of spirit that keeps ghosts around though.